The 80 rectifier tubes is intended for radios or small amplifiers. This diode is a smaller version than the 5U4G, intended for lower DC output current, and lower voltage.
Guarantee program for first owner.
At EML we have the normal guarantee. In addition to that, the first owner can register the tube within 4 weeks after receival, at the Emission Labs ® website, to participate in the 5 years guarantee program.
- Hard metal filaments (See Note1), series connected.
- Each tube is numbered, inside the bulb with a metal Tag
- Hand blown, Globe shaped glass
- Two extra large getters.
- These tubes are shipped in a high quality dual box or single box for rectifiers.
- Tube printing with real gold (metal), red color is burned into the glass.
- Gold Plated pins, black ceramic UX4 socket. (White bottom). Ideal for the YAMAMOTO tube sockets.
Typical application notes below here, applies for 80 and the 274 tube.
Sound Character of the 80 Rectifier
It is the most asked question, and behavior of a power supply depends a lot on the type of tube rectifier used, and the way it is used.
The 80 rectifier was intended for small radios, where it cooperated with output tubes like the 45 Triode and 47 pentode. Radios internally useually operated at 250V DC. This voltage was easy to achieve, and enough for amplifier tubes. However for a triode as output tube, 250V was a compromise in terms of output power. Otherwise the whole radio had to be designed for higher voltage, which was more expensive. Yet for higher output, a higher working voltage of 275V was used, as found in more expensive radios and audio amplifiers. The 80 tube was designed for both applications, and still today an ideal choice for small HiFi amplifiers, or pre amplifiers. It can be regarded as a smaller version of the 5U4G, but the 80 has higher plate impedance, which is of advantage for low hum circuit design.
The maximum capacitor value for the 80 tube was limited at 20uF. The 80 rectifier is quite robust, because the relation of maximum capacitor value compared to the heater current is very good. For this reason, collectors often find the original 80 rectifier still working in old radios.
Overall it can be said, the 80 rectifier is a very reliable tube, and comfortable for the electronics designer, due to it's relatively high possible first capacitor. Yet this tube is characterized by somewhat higher dynamic resistance, thus reducing power supply hum, and radiation of hum into other parts of the circuit. Also for head phone amplifiers, it makes this tube is a very good choice.
|Tolerance on filament voltage|
|AC input voltage||
|DC output current||
|Copper Resistance of transformer minimum value. Add normal resistor if copper resistance is too low. (so if you have 120 Ohms, you need to add 80 ohms or more)||
|First capacitor, connected to Anodes|
80 Mechanical Data
Size including Socket
140 x 58 mm
Shipped weight for a single boxed tube:
- Good care should be taken when making the design of any DHT rectifier. It must be prevented to have strong current peaks, through the first capacitor, because consequently this flows through the tube anode, and transformer windings as well. The transformer will produce mechanical hum by this, most specially if there is no such thing as windings symmetry by design, or if the windings copper resistance is choosen too low. (Which is a bad tranformer design error). The transformer becomes noisy, and also the tube will suffer. For this reason, the first capacitor (C1) should never be larger than stated in this data sheet. Although it sometimes seems to work "better", exceeding the capacitor value is a wrong thing to do
- Mechanical transformer hum, and also tube current peaks are greatly reduced by a smaller capacitor value. In order to achieve the same amount of filtering, simply increase the choke value accordingly. Although it is clear, higher capacitor values come at lower cost than high value chokes, working with a smaller capacitor and larger choke, is always better. The result will be: Lower mechanical transformer hum, less electrical field radiation into the pre-amp, and more lifetime from the rectifier tube. This is why we recommend using largest chokes, and actually today these are not overly expensive. From Lundahl, high value chokes are achievable at the same price as HiFi capacitors, like from a Mundorf or Black gate. So we have to go back to the roots, and use high quality, large value chokes, like in the old days of radio design.
- For best ripple suppression, increase the choke to any value you need, or even use an C-L-C-L-C circuit, as also advised in the historical RCA data sheet. So we are advising this, same as it was advised almost 100 years ago already.
- Higher capacitor values as the data sheet maximum limit may sometimes be used, yet only at very special conditions. This can be the case, if the rectifier is used at siginificant lower voltage and lower current than maximum. Though we advise against it, you may see this occaisionally. This is however often wrong, if not done without carefull measurements, proving peak current is within range. Moreover there is no real need for this. As a rule of thumb, high voltage power supplies are work best with large size chokes, specially at high output current, whereas low voltage power supplies are more conveniently build with larger capacitors.
- Windings symmetry is needed with HV transformers to prevent hum. A HV winding with center tap, requires most of the time FOUR separated HV windings inside the transformer, which are arranged for the end user as one winding with a center tap. It is remarkable to see, how transformer manufacturers have forgotten this today. If simply two windings are layed over each other, the inner winding has smaller copper resistance than the outer. With load being not identical this way, a small DC current results, which pre-magnetises the transformer core, and mechenical hum is the result. However we have a tube data sheet here, no transformer construction manual, so we can not explain this in more detail.