EML80A Mesh Data Sheet

Description

This tube has the designation "80A", indicating it is a special version of the "80" tube.

The difference is two:

  1. The A-Version has the tube socket mounted 180° rotated, compared to all other EML tubes. Like this they fit nicely into Yamamoto amplifiers, which have the rectifier socket mounted rotated. By this little cosmetic change, the logo is at the front in Yamamoto amplifiers.
  2. The 80A is dual tested, at Type 80 specifications, and at 274A specifications.

More about this, in the description below here.

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Description

The 80 rectifier was a standard rectifier in American Radios. These radios worked typically at 250V DC. To avoid the use of a power supply choke, they used relatively high first capacitors. Due to this low voltage, the "Type 80" was relatively low cost, and it became very popular.

The 274A rectifier has also a 2 Ampere heater and UX4 socket. It was however intended for higher voltage applications, which was achieved by a better tube socket, and more isolation distance with the mica parts and the tube stem. The drawback of the much higher voltage, is a smaller maximum value of the first capacitor.

The emissionlabs 80A can fulfill both requirements: The high voltage if the type 80 tube, using a small capacitor, and the lower voltage of the 274A tube, using a large capacitor.

With rectifier design in general, to achieve ultra low ripple, it is recommended to use the Lundahl LL1673 dual coil choke in what is called: "CMR" configuration. A large choke needs no high first capacitor, can take a higher second capacitor much better, and there will be virtually no hum field radiation from the choke itself. (See link to circuit diagram, at the bottom of this page).

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Features

Typical application notes below here, applies for 80 and the 274 tube.

Sound Character of the 80 Rectifier

It is the most asked question, and behavior of a power supply depends a lot on the type of tube rectifier used, and the way it is used.

The 80 rectifier was intended for small radios, where it cooperated with output tubes like the 45 Triode and 47 pentode. Radio receivers usually operate at 250V DC. This voltage was easy to achieve, and enough for amplifier tubes. However for a triode as output tube, 250V was a compromise in terms of output power. Otherwise the whole radio had to be designed for higher voltage, which was more expensive. Yet for higher power output, a higher working voltage of 275V was used, as found in more expensive radios and audio amplifiers. The 80 tube was designed for both applications, and still today the ideal choice for small HiFi amplifiers, or pre amplifiers. It can be regarded as a smaller version of the 5U4G, but the 80 has higher plate impedance, which is of advantage for low hum circuit design.

The maximum capacitor value for the 80 tube was limited at 20uF. The 80 rectifier is quite robust, because the relation of maximum capacitor value compared to the heater current is better than with 5U4G. For this reason, collectors often find the original 80 rectifier still working in old radios.

Overall it can be said, the 80A rectifier is a very reliable tube, and comfortable for the electronics designer, due to it's relatively high possible first capacitor. Other than 5U4G, this tube is characterized by higher dynamic resistance, thus reducing power supply hum, and radiation of hum into other parts of the circuit. Also for head phone amplifiers, it makes this tube a very good choice.

Filament Ratings
Filament Voltage
5 Volt (AC or DC)
Tolerance on filament voltage
5%
Filament Current
2 Ampere

Maximum ratings if transformer below 350V AC
For use as type 80 tube

Max limits are possible simultaneously

 
AC in
DC out
Capacitor Input
350
125mA
 
Transformer Raa minimum value. (Add normal resistor, if your Raa too low)
200 Ohms
.
Maximum ratings if transformer above 350V AC
For use as 274A tube
Max limits NOT possible simultaneously
Take one maximum number, you must de rate another
READ all notes at the bottom of this Data sheet
DC output current
160mA
Choke Input
550Volts
Capacitor Input
450Volts
First capacitor, connected to Anodes
4uF
.
80A Mechanical Data

UX4 Base

Size including Socket
(but excluding pins)

140 x 58 mm
5.5 x 2.3 Inch

Tube weight:
130 Gram
Shipped weight for a single boxed tube:
400 Gram

Notes

  1. Good care should be taken when making the design of any DHT rectifier. Strong current peaks must be prevented through the first capacitor, because consequently this flows through the tube anode, and transformer windings as well. The transformer will produce mechanical hum, if there is no mechanical windings symmetry. (such as one layer simply wound over the other). Also hum can occur, when the copper resistance is chosen too low. Such errors will make the transformer noisy, and it is not good for the tube also. For this reason, the first capacitor (C1) should never be larger than stated in this data sheet.
  2. Power supply hum is greatly reduced by a smaller capacitor value. In order to achieve the same amount of filtering, simply increase the choke value accordingly. Although it is clear, larger capacitors come at lower cost than larger chokes, working with a small capacitor and large choke, is always better. The result will be: Lower mechanical transformer hum, less electrical field radiation into the pre-amp, and more lifetime from the rectifier tube. From Lundahl, high value chokes are achievable at the same price as HiFi capacitors, like from a Mundorf or Black gate. Going back to the roots, we use high quality, large value chokes, as it was normal in the old days of radio design, when the type 80 tube was invented by RCA.
  3. For best ripple suppression, increase the choke to any value you need, or even use an C-L-C-L-C circuit, as also advised in the historical RCA data sheet. We advise this, same as it was advised 100 years ago.
  4. Higher capacitor values as the data sheet maximum limit, MAY sometimes be used, but only at very special conditions. This can be the case, if the rectifier is used at significant lower voltage and lower current than maximum. Though we advise against it, you may see this occasionally. This is however wrong, if not done without a measurement, proving peak current is within range. Moreover there is no real need for this. As a rule of thumb, high voltage power supplies work better larger chokes, whereas low voltage power supplies work better with larger capacitors.
  5. Mechanical windings symmetry is needed with HV transformers to avoid hum. A HV winding with Cathode Tap, requires most of the time FOUR separated HV windings inside the transformer, which are arranged for the end user as one winding with a Cathode Tap. It is remarkable to see, how transformer manufacturers have forgotten this today. If simply two windings are laid over each other, the inner winding has smaller copper resistance than the outer. With load being not identical this way, a small DC current results, which pre-magnetises the transformer core, and mechanical hum is the result. However we write a tube data sheet here, not a transformer construction manual, so we can not explain this in more detail.